clinton's support for gun control measures, including the assault weapons ban. other democrats began to say the same thing. well, that gave the nra far more power than it deserved. i didn't believe it was true then -- >> well, you have to look at west virginia, and west virginia, kentucky, tennessee, that's where he was finding his problems, right? >> where republicans win anyway. the people who vote for republicans in those states are not going to vote for a democrat. it doesn't matter -- >> okay. i'm not going to argue with you except on these points of electoral ledge votes. it used to be until recently we had arkansas, west virginia was a consistently democratic -- let's look at some of the guys on the far right. fear factor. kentucky senator rand paul who wants to run for president is concerned that the president has a king complex. and paul is out there vowing to nullify any executive orders that impede on executive powers, which by the way, has not happened. we used the word nullification. you're talking civil war here. let's watch. >> our founding father